Back Where We Started

3 Jul 2010 by E, 3 Comments »

We were on our way to view a home today when our agent got the call.

Our buyer couldn’t secure a loan, so the deal’s off and depending on which side of the glass you’re looking at, we’ve gained $1,000 (buyer’s deposit) or lost a coupla hundred grand in usable cash.

I love where I live, inside and out. It’s bright and breezy, everyone knows our names, and we’re one minute from town by train. I’m used to being outnumbered racially so I can ignore the fact that the Chinese-to-Indian ratio is probably about 1:500 on Sundays.

I’m not looking forward to going through the sale process again but I’m not completely bummed out either. It helps that it’s not a great time to buy. We’ve been to a few far-flung locations in the last two weeks and here’s what I can tell you about trying to get a resale HDB flat in the current market:

A. You need a lot of cash.

  • Crappy-looking flat, near MRT, low floor = +$30,000 over valuation
  • Nice-looking flat, near MRT, mid floor = +$50,000
  • Any flat considered “central” = +$60,000 and up, up, and up

B. Property ads can be great time wasters.

  • On websites like Property Guru (my fave local property search engine because you can filter by distance to specific MRT station, price, size, and more), agents place dummy ads to gauge interest for a particular area and to add callers to their list of “ready buyers.” Fake ads usually don’t have pictures or much detail about the flats being sold. Even if there is a picture, it’s not necessarily of the sale apartment so always check to save yourself a wasted trip.
  • If an ad doesn’t mention which floor or whether it’s a corner/corridor unit, assume it’s a low floor, corridor unit.

C. Old flats may be bigger (click here for a list of HDB flat types and models), but you may also have the hassle of lift/internal upgrades (as well as paying for the works). Agents will always sell it to you as a good thing, but I’ve just been through two years of watching a hotel come up right next to my block and I’m not ready for another year of noise and dust. You can check if the apartment you’re eying is up for upgrading programmes here. For some forum chatter on whether or not old flats are worth the price, click here.

Here’s a little story: About a week ago, we made an offer for a flat in Chong Pang, a sleepy town with supposedly good hawker food stuck halfway between Sembawang and Yishun. Low floor, corner, something that needed overhauling in terms of decor. Two bus-stops from Yishun MRT, with a feeder service at a frequency of 15 minutes. Or you could walk for 20-25. The agent was asking for $40,000 over valuation, and we offered 10 (and were willing to go up to 15 or 20). Mr Agent said it wasn’t even worth telling his client about — totally unethical — but stopped short of giving us a counter-offer. The End.

We’re giving this buying/selling business a short rest before we plot our next move. If you’re still out there home hunting, here are more links that might help:

3 Comments

  1. Jayne says:

    Hey Evelyn! I have a little story to share…

    Interestingly, we bought our current flat from a Chinese/Indian couple who didn’t realise that they could sell it to a Chinese/Chinese couple. We didn’t know too, but we gave it a try anyway and gave them an offer. They were having such a hard time finding a Chinese/Indian couple that they took the offer at $10K below valuation (There was a short dip in property prices at that time) when our agent told them he would “appeal” to HDB.

    Eventually, our agent got through the appeal with HDB etc (not sure of the details) and when the seller realised that they could actually sell to a Chinese/Chinese couple, they were outraged coz’ they felt they were shortchanged. But it was too late anyway… They kept passing sarcastic remarks when we met up for 1st/2nd appts, but it was a small price to put up with for the good price we managed to get for the flat.

    So, anyway… all the best to your flat search/sale!! We searched for many months and finally found our dream home.. The gem is somewhere, just waiting for you to discover. :-)

  2. yi huey says:

    hihi, m keeping a watch on ppty prices too. so tks for the advice. when u talked abt the 1% commission, is it on top of the purchase price? are there any other costs other than stamp duty, conveyance fees etc?

    btw my fav ppty website is propertyguru.com too :)

  3. E says:

    Hi! In HDB transactions, you typically pay the agent 2% for the sale (based on sale price), and 1% of purchase price. Btw I’ve read that the 2% is not regulated, i.e. you could negotiate with your agent to pay him only 1% to sell your flat. For us, we hired an agent with ERA and the 2% is stated in the ERA contract. The disadvantage of “bargaining” with your agent is that with so many flat sellers paying 2%, he may not be working as hard for you. Further, he may not be open to co-broking and sharing that commission (http://www.sg-house.com/classifieds/property-news-and-knowledge/937868-what-is-co-broke.html#post2385175), which may limit the no. of people coming to view your flat.

    I remember reading that if you’re buying private property, you don’t have to pay 1% to the seller’s agent.

    For HDB, info on the legal fees is here:
    http://www.hdb.gov.sg/fi10/fi10321p.nsf/w/BuyResaleFlatCostLegal?OpenDocument

    I don’t think there are other fees involved after paying off the outstanding loan, agent and legal fees. There’s a sale proceeds calculator btw!
    http://www101.hdb.gov.sg/hdbvsf/eampuadp.nsf/6ab05eac2e9b188548256db100125f6b/c3785832b64e3805482576b10009a42a/$FILE/CompSaleProceedHDBDiv.htm#

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